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Christian Ude | „The only name that comes to mind is really Fritz Bauer.“

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Christian Ude

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Martin von Berswordt-Wallrabe

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May 10, 2025

The former Lord Mayor of Munich, Christian Ude, is a lawyer and social democrat. These parallels make him an exciting dialogue partner for this special episode to mark the opening of the Fritz Bauer Forum in Bochum. On 22 May, he will be reading texts by Fritz Bauer together with an actress. In the podcast, he talks about the importance of the culture of remembrance, the failings of German lawyers in coming to terms with Nazi crimes and why „right-wing“ must not become a fighting term.

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